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For those who dont have AGGC access, there is a function that runs a report on top seeds EVER based on their top 5 weights. Its pretty incredable that in just their first year these 6 2004 seeds made the top 200 of all time.
#19- 1446 Eaton high 1289 and avg top 5 of 1121.76
#20- 1420 Larue high 1332 and avg top 5 of 1117.62

Ranked 19 and 20 EVER after their first year out.... AMAZING! I bet the 1446 and 1420 both jump into the top ten after the 2006 season.

There are 4 other 04 seeds that have managed to make this list also.
#47 1125 Frantz high 1200 and avg top 5 956.7
#77 753 Eaton high 1025 and avg top 5 872.4
#102 1432 Carlson / Peterson high 1053.5 avg top 5 817.4
#158 1101 Northrup high 834 and avg top 5 728.5

Just some info I thought id pass on. I wonder how many 04' seeds did very well but since they didnt have 5 offspring in the first year they didnt make this list? For a seed to get 5 decent sized offspring in one year is tough. Anyone have any thoughts on this post?

1/16/2006 2:44:52 PM

No Place Special

I was wondering myself how accurate or inaccurate this info may be. I jumped on AGGC and looked up my own 1083 from 04'. It only has four reported offspring...
1114
1090
881.5
743
For these four fruit the 1083 Averages 957 lbs. Had there been a 5th fruit weighing 957 lbs (very possible had it been planted more) then the 1083 would have taken 47th on this list and knocked the 1125 down one. As a matter of fact I know there was a 600 plus lber grown on the 1083 that was not submitted to AGGC. If that 600 lb pumpkin were added to the equation then the 1083 would be placed about 75 on the all time list with an Avg top 5 weight of 885.7

1/16/2006 3:26:14 PM

Ohio

Mike, somehow I thought your seed had to be listed in there somewhere,LOL. Your seed should move up after this year alot.

Heres a story for ya Mike, my wife told me last year that she would grow a pumpkin all by herself, instead of smashing anymore of my favorite plants like she did last year (1068 Wallace). I told her last week to pick out a seed from my collection and she said" Do you have that seed from that really orange pumpkin that was on the front of that magazine?" I told her no I dont, but I do have alot of seeds that will grow a pretty orange,just pick one! She said'' Im not going to grow one then cause thats the only pumpkin I like""
See what you started mIKE! haHAHAHA

1/16/2006 3:40:08 PM

Berlin,mi.([email protected])

Smart women Brooks. lol

1/16/2006 3:55:07 PM

On top of Brush Mountain, Pa.

Sometimes the number of big pumpkins produced by a certain seed has a relationship directly to how many people grow it. It would be interesting to see a list of the weights of all the pumpkins grown from a certain seed and the growers who grew them. It might make a big difference. If 100 people grew a certain seed and ten huge pumpkins were produced, that seed would look better on the record than one where 5 seeds were grown and three big pumpkins produced.

1/16/2006 3:57:04 PM

No Place Special

Brooks, I assume she wants a 781.5? If so I got one for her. Its the least I can do.

1/16/2006 5:24:30 PM

No Place Special

I wonder how many 04 seeds would have made this list if all data was entered into the AGGC. There are probably many 04 seeds that dont show up here due to only having 3 or 4 offspring, regardless of their size. It would be nice if growers took more time to enter even their avg pumpkins instead of just their superstars or personal bests.

1/16/2006 6:04:16 PM

Norton, MA

I don't even know how to enter my 2 500+ from this year, HELP. AleX Noel.

1/16/2006 7:28:57 PM

SF Bay Area, California

The relative ranking of the six seeds you mentioned shows a close linear relationship with the number of offspring of each seed as follows:

1446 - 13 offspring
1420.5 - 22 offspring
1125 - 8 offspring
753 - 5 offspring
1432 - 6 offspring
1101 - 5 offspring

In other words, the more you plant a seed the more likely it is that you pop a some big ones.

The 1446 and the 1420.5 both were heavily planted their first year because Al and Jack made a deal with a bunch of growers to grow and cross the two seeds. Some pretty good growers took them up on this deal and did very well with them. I think this helped a lot in the performance seen with these two crosses.

It would be interesting to know, however, how much of the weight improvement seen in recent crosses is a result of improved genetics and how much is due to better growing techniques....

1/16/2006 7:48:44 PM

Ohio

Just to change the subject for a second, but I just looked up what the 753 Eaton produced. Did you see the 792 Heyne '05 Pumpkin that was grown off the 753 Eaton this year? Its red, wow!, I seen some red pumpkins before but I dont think I seen one that red in color before.

Mike Ill email you,thanks.

Brooks

1/16/2006 8:16:29 PM

Garden State Pumpkins

707 Toftness...grown a year earlier...enuf said...names get it grown...

1/16/2006 8:29:01 PM

Sparta, NC

There were 35 2004 seeds that produced 1000 lbers
1446 Eaton - 4
1420.5 LaRue - 3
1253 Sperry - 2
1139 Sherwood - 2
1083 Frantz - 2
848* MacKenzie - 2
29 tohers with 1 each.

1/17/2006 8:13:19 AM