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Lake Elmo, Minnesota

Thinking about buying MyCore from pumpkinsupply.com. Wondering how it is applied (i.e. as drench, then tilled; dry broadcast and no till, etc....) Also, how beneficial is it to the bottom line of bigger pumpkins vs. the basics such as soil, sun, water, and pest/fungus control.

1/31/2006 10:06:33 AM

Montoursville, PA

Mycorrhiazae is a living fungus. Your last two words used will kill your natural mycorrhiazae as well as any you would innoculate into your patch.

However you should go, to the mycorrhiazae web sites and keep reading up, on its value. I will say the cost, of the mycorrhiazae pretty much determines, it's value. You get pretty much what you pay for.

1/31/2006 12:39:35 PM

Eugene,OR

I think that mycorrhiazae is one of the great "secrets" to growing a real monster. I am not an expert and this is just my opinion (based on my experience), but the plant's increased ability to take in nutrients seems to be considerable. Before using mycorrhiazae I wondered how other people had super-sized vines (like huge ropes). Last year I used it for the first time and that is exactly what I had. I also had massive "root" growth which was on the edge of unbelievable. I believe that it helped me increased my personal best from 873.5 to 947.

1/31/2006 1:17:04 PM

canal winchester ohio

Here's a question I've been wondering about concerning Mycorrhiazae. How many growers use follow up application of Mycorrhiazae by putting it at the leaf nodes when burying vines ?
thanks......Paul

1/31/2006 1:40:33 PM

Syracuse, NY

me!
however, i only "scratched the surface"
of how MUCH burying needed to be done on my plants this year. it was mentally very rewarding to know that i was doing the right thing on my 895.5 Hester squash,
whereas i dug trenches and laid the vines in them once they were about 8-11 feet long and had not yet done the rooting thing on their own. unfortunately the 895.5's biggest
fruit was about 250-300 pounds and aborted, just like all the others on that plant for me in '05. but, i hear that that was the genetics of that seed talkin'. okay.
anyway, i dug trenches/buried the leaf nodes of at least two of my biggest fruits' plants this year, the 1125 Frantz (501) and the 1076.5 Werner (653.5). i used a quart Mason jar with about 1/8-inch holes drilled into the lid, like a pepper shaker, and sprinkled gingerly the BioGrow Endo Plus
from Joel Holland into the trenches just before the vine was laid to rest in the trench. no idea if the stuff was actually working, but i felt really good that i was using it and helping my plants. no need for very much, as it will
come to life and populate the area around the inoculaton;
i know of at least one grower who says it is not necessary to put more down than just at the planting hole.
i do it just in case. eric gerry

1/31/2006 5:31:13 PM

New Hampshire

http://www.mycorrhizae.com/index.php?cid=40

1/31/2006 6:10:54 PM

Phoenix, AZ

I myself did a test with myco. I planted in Sept. some plants with and without myco. They ones with Myco. were 10X the mass as the ones without in 2 months. This is terribly unbelieveable but it is the truth. I could not figure out why last year when I tried to grow during the summer I could not. Now I see it was at the least the lack of Myco. which was allowing the uptake of nutrients. I would never plant without it now.

Just the last few seedlings I planted this January, the root structure was tremendous compared to what I have seen in the past.

Just my experience.

1/31/2006 9:38:35 PM

Rhode Island

many people (includin me up until this winter ) thought there was only one type of mycorrhizae to use. i was wrong.
our newsletter editor did a lot of research on this subject.
we have several articles on this very subject coming out in our april newsletter. articles and opinions by none other than the foremost expert in this field.
you cant over use it but, you should sprinkle a little in the area of tap roots as well as the plants base.
vineman hit the nail right on the head when he said it was one of the great "secrets" to growing a superior ag plant and pumpkin.

1/31/2006 10:10:43 PM

Santa Cruz, CA

Do you need to be careful with mycorrhizae when handeling it? Are there any side effects anyone knows about? I found a small bottle of it at our local garden store but are there other sources at a better rate? What brand is best?

1/31/2006 10:39:17 PM

Eugene,OR

It is expensive, so be careful with it...otherwise don't worry. Pumpkinsupply.com sells it, Joel Holland sells it through his web site.

2/1/2006 12:14:32 AM

Cameron,ontario Team Lunatic

I agree with all the above statements. It's helped me break into the 1000# club. I use it a every leaf nod as well. I wonder if it can help control any undesirable fungus & diseases? Anyone have any thoughts on that?

Phil

2/1/2006 6:56:31 AM

Rhode Island

phil
yes using a proper mycorrhizae addition helps a lot. one of the main reasons i like what i have read on it is that plant health is also improved. its your own personal army doing battle under ground, around and attached to your roots.
its not a cure all or magic bullet, but it really can help with plant vigor, pumpkin growth and overall plant and root health

2/1/2006 8:56:28 AM

Rhode Island

one last thing i neglected to mention. if your going to spend the money to add mycorrhizae into your battle plan keep in mind you need to lay off the commercial fertalizers. the salts in commercial fertalizers will kill off your army faster than poop thru a goose.

2/1/2006 9:00:45 AM

Selbyville, Delaware

Ben, What company did you buy your myco from? Sounds like you bought a good strain.

2/1/2006 10:18:19 AM

Lake Elmo, Minnesota

Pap: regarding commercial fertilizers, are you saying that products like Neptunes harvest, soluable seaweed/fish, etc... is O.K.? Just not stuff like Miracle Gro, Peter's, etc....

2/1/2006 10:21:35 AM

Pocatello ([email protected])

Ben,

Do you have any pictures of plants, with and without? I'd be
interested in seeing them.

There are some pretty strong endorsements here. Very interesting...

I tried "mic" once, but I only applied it in the seedling pot
before seed germination. Also, I think my natural soil is
so high in salts and other junk, that maybe I didn't get
much benefit from it. I'm working on the soil...

For those of you who like the product you're using, where
did you get it?

Regards, Cliff

2/1/2006 12:08:42 PM

Phoenix, AZ

Sorry no pics that I remember but I will check on my computer to see.

http://www.tandjenterprises.com/biovam_product_label.htm

Biovam is the stuff I used because they used both the Endo and Ecto type of myc as well as many other baterias beneficial to the garden. Wanted more than just myc. I wanted all the beneficial microbes and this stuff will give it to you.

2/2/2006 12:44:05 AM

Syracuse, NY

AndyMan---anything that is organic, (once-living),
is okay with the Mycorrhizae.
So, seaweed and kelp and anything of that nature is fine.
i also think i read that it is okay to use Miracle Gro as long as the Myco is given time to become
established, but i am not sure. i WILL BE by planting time, lol! BioGrow Endo Plus from Joel Holland is what i have used, and it has in it several strains of ENDO Mycorrhizae,
which is what works on plants like our AGs...
ECTO Mycorrhizae is what works on woody plants such as trees. they are not interchangeable. the names are descriptive of how the Mycorrhizae attaches itself to the roots of the plant, or tree's roots.
anyway, i think that 25 pounds of BioGrow Endo Plus from Joel is like, well, do not quote me, 295 dollars shipping included. incrementally less for smaller amounts down to,
i think, a pound! worth every penny if it works for ya!
ha ha ha i still have 15 pounds of it left>>>shows how much i didn't get done in the vine-burying department. lastly, it also has the same active ingredient in it that is otherwise known as RootShield, a popular and effective
bunch of microbes that ward off the bad thingies....
man, i gotta re-read my Langevin books....soon! eric

2/2/2006 1:26:21 AM

Rhode Island

i was told not to use 10-50-10, 15-30-15 etc etc because of the salts. by all means use kelp,fish, etc.

2/2/2006 7:20:08 AM

Southeast

Are you saying Pap all you used was compost,manure etc along with fish and sea weed for you feeding program. Perhaps you used foliar sprays without salts? Dave

2/2/2006 8:44:32 PM