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Nashville, TN

Looks like I'm modifying the protocol. Just not enough 'selfed gerational' GP/GS around - so I'm going to have to spend a few seasons selfing the varieties I have.

Will continue the color study using the 'lesser Maximas' - Hubbard squashes. I've found several suppliers of true breeding 'heirloom varieties' of every color phase. And they take a whole lot LESS room to grow 50-60 of the F-1 generation.

It'll still take at least two seasons to get preliminary numbers/ratios from different crosses. And another season or two to confirm the results.

But since the GP & GS originally came from these 'lesser M.' the results should be the same.

3/27/2006 1:38:51 PM

Flowery Branch, Georgia

Science Teacher:

Calm down, you are looking for answers that might not exist.

This list is for an exchange of ideas, not a one way flow of information to you.

I am happy to help in any way possible, but you are expecting answers to questions that you as a science teacher cannot answer.

Bob Attaway
Flowery Branch, Georgia

3/27/2006 5:13:26 PM

Nashville, TN

There are always answers... Someone's just gotto look hard enough for them.. Everythings inherited through a pathway - we just have to discern the pattern..

Just like white. I've read that it's dominant over everything, yet when I did a site search for color inheritance here - I came across a thread on Seed + color. Where Tiller mentioned two different orangeXorange line seeds - that produced white progeny. Perhaps there are orange alleles that white is dominant over - and other orange alleles that are dominant over it?? interesting...

Also came across some other threads of interest: Found out the 845 Nesbitt throws green Squash and other variances, as does the 810 Dill lines. Perhaps these two lines are containing dominant Orange alleles - and are heterozygous carriers for multiple other color alleles?? interesting..

Yes, I primarily studied Biology. Yet, I've been into 'color dynamic' genetic 'studie' since I was 12 - when I was one of the first owners/breeders of the rare recessive silver coloration in Cockatiels. Later, I studied the inheritance patterns of all 'primary coat colors' in the horse as well as the 'appaloosa LP pattern inheritance' - that's when I stood two app stallions...

Learning/exploring new data just takes enthusiasm and a question to answer.

3/27/2006 5:56:06 PM

Norton, MA

It is a very interesting thing, and could prove to be extremely useful. Please consider this not as a bash to your great test, but a suggestion and a passing of knowledge: Sometimes, color diferrences are just simply a bad pollination. It's likely there are trends, but a simple grain of pollen, or an absolutely uncontrolable yet perfectly natural genetic mutation could mess this up fast. You have said you'll be doing many copies (plants) of each test, so this will help. Just be careful that you don't jump to conclusions to fast. Good Luck, keep us updated, AleX Noel.

3/27/2006 7:46:03 PM

Nashville, TN

I have discussed this subject at length with Dr Wang PhD at TSU. He has offered to go over my results after each growing season - and help with future protocal alterations, as well as Chi calculations. Since his specialty is genetics - both classical mendellian and molecular - I felt that it was important to have an expert such as he to check my findings.

Although, as he stated: "color inheritance is generally controlled by multiple alleles" .. so this could take a while..

3/29/2006 5:18:28 AM

Norton, MA

Sorry, what's Chi? Thanks, AleX.

3/29/2006 6:48:56 PM