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Santa Cruz, CA

It looks like there are atleast seven like crosses to the 1068 out there. Has anyone grown the 1024 Mombert? What was the plant and pumpkin like? How about the 1071.8 Houghton or the 1127 Glasier? There is also the 961 Wallace.

11/22/2006 6:43:16 PM

Canada

I plan on a 1068 x 961 cross, like I said plan LOL

11/22/2006 6:52:23 PM

I plan on growing the 1127 Glasier in 07.

11/22/2006 11:09:07 PM

Santa Rosa, CA.

I think Pete's reverse cross did better. 992.5 Glasier(dmg) '05 (898 X 845)

11/23/2006 12:09:34 AM

Eugene,OR

There are LOTS of 845x898 and reverse crosses. It is becoming the most successful cross/combination ever (I know that some people will argue that the 935/865 or is better). 1104 Hester, 1133 Demers, 500 Wallace, 961 Wallace, 958 Chiliberto, 851 Demers, 751 Rockwell, plus Pete Flasier's 1127 & 992.5 are just a few of them. In the right grower's patch all of these would grow 1000+ pound pumpkins...and bigger. They just need to be grown. You don't have to spend $750 to get a great 845x898 seed.

11/23/2006 1:16:03 AM

Eugene,OR

Pete Glasier's, that is...not Flasier's.

11/23/2006 1:17:01 AM

Simi valley, ca

I difinatly agree with vineman ,I grew the 958 first yr with no experance (reverse of the 1068) & did great was the biggest in the southern half of california ever at the time 872.5 lbs,Then second yr i grew same cross the 1104 hester & i didnt preform as well , & with much more experance& many improvements !! id put my money on the reverse of the 958 & go with the 733 ciliberto if you want to try the same cross as the 1068 ,, very well could be as good or better !!!

11/23/2006 3:02:12 AM

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The 1081 Leonzi '05 got its test spin this year. Connecticut had some of the worst (wet) pumpkin weather this summer. Yet the 1081 managed to grow the year's biggest pumpkin here. I'd say it'll get another run if folks consider this fact.

11/23/2006 1:28:48 PM

Ohio

Yea Tremor, I was going to mention the 1081 Leonzi, I dont think this seed got much of a chance last year espically in your part of the woods because of the rain.

11/23/2006 3:13:26 PM

Rhode Island

the way to explore the replacment of the 1068 with a like seed is simple one.
the key my friends is to get a group of growers
committed to planting the same seed stock and PROVE if its got the right stuff or not.
just about any quality seed stock produced over the last couple years will give off a few over 1,000 pounders.

the true test comes with weights from multiple plantings in the hands of capable growers.
in other words, if ten people with good gardening (ag growing ) skills, plant the same seed stock and say, eight out of the ten have very good results?
then and only then have you proven that seed stock to be a heavy weight contender.

after two of us had a good outing with the 1068 in 2004 a bunch of southern new england growers grew it in 05 with a fantastic crop of heavy over the chart pumpkins.in fact we won the 2005 gpc site of the year award much to the credit of this seed.( 1443 palmer aside of course ).
the rest of the seeds history from there is of course history.

until people realize that then no seed will for a very long time ever beat out the results from the wallace 1068.
you may get a few 900 to 1000 pounders but, not the 1,100 and over you need to get that red/white and blue ribbon.

pap

11/23/2006 10:59:39 PM

Indiana

I think the 1104 Hester has the same stuff in it.....1420 for Jack LaRue a few years ago now already. I grew the 1104 and the 1068 right next to eachother, same conditions, and the weights were within 2.5 pounds of eachother. Now granted this was only one situation, but each plant also had 1 fruit about half the size that were within a few pounds of eachother, and then another midget 100 pounder. Of all the plants I have grown that was one of the most unusual occurances.

11/24/2006 2:17:19 AM

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Dick's methodology is important. Since we can never really "grow-out" an entire fruits worth of seeds for genetic purposes, the next best thing is to create a group of 8-12 growers all committed to growing the same seed *properly*.

Its finding those 10 properly equipped growers that poses so much challenge.

11/24/2006 8:16:53 AM

Santa Cruz, CA

Going back to what Dick was talking about. What if a few growers grew say three of the same seeds. Would you need less growers to help "prove" the seed? or is it important because of good growing practices, weather, water and luck that the seeds get grown by multiple separate growers for the seed to really show its self?

11/25/2006 1:34:46 AM

Simi valley, ca

To me it would be interesting to have 1068 & 733 & maybe a few others of same cross growen by growers with good growing skills & then see if theres really any differance in a certain pumpkins seeds or NOT ?? Im not convenced the proven seed will do any better than others !! But its probly like me if you put so much into patch you want to have all the advantages you can!! but this yr im not going way out of way for proven seed !!!

11/25/2006 1:58:24 AM

Simi valley, ca

O and if you only have places for 3-4 plants and you probly have over 10 choices you would like to try then it makes it hard to experament & use up 2 or more places with same cross

11/25/2006 2:06:23 AM